Unfortunately, your choices are to either stay at speed 4 (which is still pretty fast), or upgrade your aystem. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes, level 2 snorkels and full engine, put on. Then, when I invaded the Soviet Union later in the game, I got Leningrad, got Vichy France to transfer control of the state of Stalingrad to me, made sure all states were fully owned by me, then I used console commands to make Ile de France mine for a little bit so I could proclaim the Greater German Reich. The combination of speed and visibility make your ships much more difficult to hit. ago. But in places where you can build radar on land, just have the naval bombers hunt the subs because it's faster to find them with the radar. 11. Jump to latest Follow Reply. The submarine tree is a standard submarine tree for convoy raiding, not very powerful. For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. HOI4 is processor intensive not so much graphically intensive. 4. Pairing with this, I still think Submarine spam is viable if you're gonna go the long game. Yes that's true but to say it wouldn't have been a game changer is a bit of a stretch. ago. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. I recently watched Hammotimes beginner series and in his Navy video he mentions a "sub spam" method in which you produce a load of T1 subs and leave them on convoy raiding with auto repair etc. I've always annihilated and been annihilated if subs/destroyers run into a large naval group. ago. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. The equipment cost (for planes) also includes training pilots to an adequate level which is the reason why it is and should be expensive in IC cost. I quickly redeploy it's troops. ago. No the problem was in the beta patch so it is still present. You can also do a double motorized for even more supply but you’ll eat your trucks doing it. Before joining the war I wanted to naval invade Gibraltar, Malta and Cyprus really quickly to cut off British ports in the Mediterranean and block their access to it, but my navy got immediately obliterated and I only. Simple solution. With Grand Battle Plan doctrine, you have the capability of getting over 100% max planning bonus. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20. If the transport plane can only reach 25% of the selected state, their supplies are cut accordingly, even if they reach the entire frontline. If you go into tje equipment the enemy lost and hover over any particular piece, there'll be a pop up that says how much of it was captured. IIRC when you plan an airborne invasion you have to assign one of your airport as the launching point (just as you do with naval one from a port) and the assigned units should move there. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox. It's allowed me to destroy significant parts of any enemy navy with comparitively minor effort. Mix them into your infantry divisions in limited quantities to give them a bunch of armor and extra punch. Nope. trumps_lasagna • 3 yr. With field hospitals and big 40w armored divisions I can have 7 veterans by the end. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. Build 2)’s Cruisers but also spam Destroyers with full torpedoes on them. Other naval ship terms: CA: heavy cruiser BC: battlecruiser BB: battleship CV: aircraft carrier SS: submarine Light cruisers are generally referred to cruisers with guns no larger than 6” caliber. lancefighter • 4 yr. Minor: Submarine is the safe choice, Light Cruiser with lots of Light attack might work. This is where you have a submarine with an engine and single torpedo tube and build as many as. It was the first time AI France goes fascist in my game, probably because they get destroyed early on in most games, leaving them without a government to change. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. If you start the game with a navy, stack all the subs in one navy and throw the rest of your navy in reserve. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. For better or for worse, magazine. If you are going to ship troops stack your subs and hope for the best. the reason you build light cruisers as any naval power (uk. Then they sold DLC with ship designer that made the system so obtuse nobody understands it, and that's supposed to be an improvement. I really enjoy the ground and air wars, and really do not enjoy the naval wars or naval invasions. 10. I prefer to build my navy slowly and spam submarines to make naval invasion. 11. Light Cruisers can get a very high operational range and destroy many convoys very quickly. If you get instagibbed, tough luck, it's called a game, we shouldn't railroad with 40 pages of rules which have to be modified after each game because after each game one can find something that's "unfair". . As we all know ships in Hoi4. Research_all I think. 76. BETA SGp - Save Game Parser - extracts statistics from SGc. For comparison, the BC1 costs 6853. I have started playing hoi4 multiplayer with 2 other friends. Apr 25, 2018. 29. SirStrider666 • 4 yr. Never miss a thing. e. I've been playing HOI4 since it's release date in 2016. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. edit: Also, have you researched any naval doctrine? The quickest way to kill submarines is destroyers equipped with sonar 2 and radar 3 set to patrol with many bombers over them. You shouldn't need to spend more than $150 on a graphics card to able to max out the graphics for HOI4. The AI just doesn't have to do much by comparison in other Paradox titles. In multiplayer your results will get worse as sub tech increases, and yes that's backwards from what happened in world war 2. "Forget all your naval options and spam submarines" - Sun Tzu. - Each naval region has a certain amount of superiority depending on the strength of each fleet. 6K subscribers. Additional advantage of submarine spam is that you can really streamline it technology wise and have much quicker doctrines researched. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. This mod makes no changes to vanilla ships or modules. If that is not the problem, check the total weight of your divisions and see if they can all be used in a transport plane. You can utilize surface raiders as well. Look at the spanish civil war and the indian liberation army. Navy Works like: 1 Admiral has a Fleet, each fleet has different Task Forces. Anything to look out for to. variants) that can be produced by dockyards. HOI4 needs a secondary Dev team (Custodian Team) with the mandate and resources to rework and improve old DLC and updates. I swear every time I try to use paratroopers they give me a headache, the times where they simply wouldn't launch are more that the ones where they worked! CommanderEggnog • 2 min. Click the portrait icon of an army without a general, there should be a button at the bottom of the window that says Promote division commander or something similar, click that and it gives you a list of division commanders, select one to promote to general. 005 * ship production cost in industrial capacity (IC) + 0. Reply. 48am. Sports. Not a huge savings but one that adds up. I think the AA division you have assigned to it is the problem with it. Surface Raiders have higher kill rates because they have higher surface detection to find convoys. I play as Germany and war is about to break out in 1939. Then I couldn't. They work ok i guess, havent tried that yet, but if you spam as much torpedoes as possible on them and spam light cruiser, im gonna actually try this tomorow, but i think they do ok, best loght cruisers have 126. The Tech sharing groups are listed as 'tech_sharing_group', near the end of the file. When they are in position that order is useless, once the enemy has marched to your fallback line then you create the frontline to keep them from making stupid gaps. AI Japan has a decision it will take to surrender if it has two nukes dropped on it, along with some other conditions. So yeah, it depends very heavily on situation. Rush the focuses: Revive the national bloc-laissez faire-economic devolution-protect rights of man-blum violet proposal-expand citizenship-encourage immigration-utilize the leagues-counsil of remboillet-revise the constitution and continue from there to the napoleon focuses. Submarines OP. I've never experience it while gaming but I have while watching YouTube in full screen mode. A few factories each guarantee air superiority in china When the war against begins hold northern front and constant push if possible even if slowIt's not like it's hard to get naval superiority in HOI4 but rather that it's too easy. FrontierJustice- • 3 yr. ago. kenzieBHOSbaker • 1 min. "Forget all your naval options and spam submarines" - Sun Tzu. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. 17 Badges. . The main tree is mostly for CVs. Fallout 4, HOI4, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Skyrim, Valheim, The Outer Worlds,. Sink the Italian Fleet. 3. Sports. S. (or not to join the Axis) or just try turning fascist and joining the axis and leaving it later. I would say subs are the most OP. ago Instead of doing sub spam, I prefer making a good surface fleet. Enitity_Enigma • 21 days ago. Convoy raiding, we’ve discovered, just doesn’t work. The USN also has some capital ships, although. A. lancefighter • 4 yr. ago. Something like this happens in the Chinese Civil war too. bwhite9 General of the Army • 4 yr. ago. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. 1 update. What I've heard is basically this: Trade Interdiction is literally the best and only naval doctrine because of how much it reduces visibility, or something to that effect. l to ensure that your capitals are effectively screened. They serve the same ultimate purpose, destroyers are 2-3x faster and can disengage a lot easier without casualties, can spot far better, etc. 11. 5. Hearts of Iron IV > Workshop > Tim Apple's Workshop. [deleted] • 7 yr. FlinzP Captain. Submarine Wolfpack --- Minimum: 20 Subs; Sweet Spot: 30 Subs; Maximum: 50 Subs; Raiding Group --- Minimum: 5 DDs, 25 Subs OR 5 CLs, 25 Subs; Convoy. Win. 6% better. ago. 21. If you win some battles you can immediately proceed with convoy raiding. There are some big weaknesses in the supply system of both hoi4 and hoi3, but in a different way. I play as Germany and war is about to break out in 1939. That Screen is bugged. submarines can only really kill capital ships well but thats if theres a good amount of submarines and only a few capitalships (No screens or else subs will get massacred, even in a doomstack) but going down the submarine doctrine tree can make the subs really good at massacring convoys. britian. This is from Kaiserreich mod (Before No step back). I've got a few theories in my head on what I want to do. For example with democratic ideology, it looks like this democratic = { types = { conservatism = { } liberalism = { } socialism = { } } there are…Cover more of the target state. Spam divisions/planes. And if you can get green air in the channel then just spam bombers there too. I have about 60 submarines and would like to convoi raid Great Britain. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. After that, leave a defensive army along the Polish border in your puppet's territory, they'll play an important role later on during the war. In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). It isn’t opening, can somebody please tell me a fix? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A JJ_BB_SS • Additional comment actions. I am trying to play multiplayer with a friend and the game wont stop lagging, it used to work fine until last year, but now it's lagging, is there a mod to increase the performance? Yes, most mods used in historical games improve performance a lot. 2. You do need a graphics card but it doesn't need to be very good. - When your fleet meets and enemy fleet they begin a naval battle. All navy production and tech to submarines Total airforce (end game) of about 600 fighters and 1200 bombers. Which gives you longer to spot them. After the 5th their org should be down enough to run over. ago. Cruisers. Click a ship and then right click the naval version of the army tab in the row where you want it (which admiral you want it to go to). In HOI4, light cruisers destroy everything on the water, and aircraft destroy everything period (land, water, whatever). Join. Sub 3’s are very good, and they are very quick to build. HoI4 is designed to emulate European warfare, the kind of warfare the NRA was not prepared to fight, and it simplifies terrain and supply to such a degree that China's natural advantages are rendered relatively inconsequential. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. bwhite9 • General of the Army • 4 yr. Stops the allied shit division spam that fucks every naval invasion. I find the cruiser submarine available via "U-boat effort" focus to be quite good at enforcing a blockade sufficiently far from Britain. Against a stronger naval opponent we can focus on tying up their fleet and destroying supply lines to starve their war machine. Japan either goes full into Yamamoto mode and makes super heavy battleships maximizing heavy attack. 8. I also just can't get any air superiority over Japan, so I can't nuke. This makes them heavy cruisers so they get protected by your Destroyers. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. Tanks can do the same thing. 12, spamming subs is no longer a viable option for fleet-building. Current HOI4 Version Supported: Barbarossa v1. [deleted] • 4 yr. Best. on resubscription it will be reupdated and dl the mods again. Reply Fun. 2. 11. Mines screw with enemies, make them slow down and stuff. 1. The variants are worth considering because you need less per battalion. I'd also suggest going for 3 range then engine upgrades to get better air mission efficiency, especially in larger zones from airports further back. Sure but there is still sea access from London to Alexandria (supply hub for Africa), it just goes through Panama, the Pacific, and through the Red Sea. ago. Submarines OP. The only thing that worked was restarting my computer. The desktop kind. SirStrider666 • 4 yr. The backbone of any strike force is the battleship. There are too few motorized, you should always aim to always have 30-40 org on your tank templates. Having a ton of navs basically guarantees you’ll win. It splashes up into the air and crashes straight through a. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…A few things could be happening, the air bases could be over crowded, even by just a few will totally ruin them. Easy, cheap, and effective. much everything, so you need light cruisers to do the heavy lifting. Edit: Sub spam for raiding. It will send just that ship as a separate task force, then you can select other ships and right click them into that task force. If you have 100 base attack, with 10% bonus from commander and 25% bonus from veterancy, your unit would have 137. have like 10-20 of these in each task force for sinking. I am gonna improve the tank template when I. Press J to jump to the feed. [deleted] • 4 yr. This still sucks so hard compared to submarines. The brute-force answer. The year is 1953 and I am still waiting for the AI to make any attempt of a naval invasion so I can nuke my own core territory and unlock the achievement. Their survivability is in their speed. 1 / 6. For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. 203. Sub 3 cannot be hit by AI, AI won't retreat because they're at a material advantage. For your purposes in Asia, the range will be far superior (huge air zones) Regardless, it doesn't matter too much. jmjwrskp • 9 mo. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. The British and French navies had to throw 2 carrier taskforces at her to finally corner her in Uruguay, but not before she sank 2 dozen merchant vessels and tankers, and captured the crews of half a dozen more. And secondarily attacking enemy ships. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. The size of a country’s submarine fleet in Hearts of Iron IV is determined by a number of factors, including the nation’s industrial capacity, technological level, and strategic doctrine. Thx. it's light cruisers that destroy screens a. Firstly is the torpedo-ships. 1 to 1x but not above. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). Like I hate that in order to properly organize your navy you have to regroup all the ships to fleets named task force one, task force two and so on. Learned To Love Submarine Groups. 19 votes, 16 comments. Until they find you, that is. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. Use naval bombers. Get all other divisions out. Latest HOI4 province summary. [deleted] • 7 yr. Look for the surface detection stat. a. If you are ussr and your are going for a late build and you build civs until mid 39, dont rush imrpoved machine tool branch go instead dispersed construction make ready your tanks and after that research these before start producing heavily. However you may still have a need for some destroyers against enemy subs riding your own convoys. Please remember to follow all forum rules. 0 unless otherwise noted. Alica90 Air Marshal • 6 yr. Razzlane • 9 mo. 6 you should spam infantry like there is no tommorow. The way supply hubs distribute supply in general is also extremely strange, but that's a separate. The AI doesn't produce the second and destroyer spam is best killed by good cruisers. Submarine Spam. 1. Bait them into encirclement or just out murder them. However, my ships cannot move to the naval zone at all, or do any tasks in the zone. 6th Flotilla Took 20+ enemies To Davy Jones. I've always annihilated and been annihilated if subs/destroyers run into a large naval group. Are there any mods or alternate maps that remove the naval aspect of the game so I can just draw battle plans and design tanks/planes/divisions to my heart's content?The planning bonus affects every statistic. Yesterday at 8:35 AM. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes,. Then: Check what province requires units and put ONLY the elite divisions there. Above water is, very specifically: a main super strike fleet comprised of light cruisers with a single medium battery to ensure its in the secondary line, torpedo destroyers, and cheap, expendable screening destroyers; while the rest of the 9 capacity is occupied by cheap, fast, scout cruisers. Late game post 1950 tanks used to be a bit broken before NSB, not sure if that's changed, since I haven't played the mod since then. 1936 Battleship. If you have 10 or more than 10 dockyards, you can disporbicya very decent. So I wonder if there are any mods that bring a bit more flavour, like more mission, traits, upgrades, smt like that?The guide, which you can find easily if you google "what are the best combat widths for hoi4" , mistakenly averages the best combat widths for each terrain, which in turn suggests combat widths that are actually bad in every terrain. 2. You can also change this setting at the supply hubs themselves but if you do it at the army level it should automatically switch the supply hubs over. I don't know if others have different experiences but most people I encounter just say that sub 3 spam is unbeatable, I keep my destroyers and cruisers with max Sub Detection. When you get the 1940 subs w/ snorkels, you can go on the offense to hunt down big fleets. Actually playing hoi4 in general now is starting to become really annoying. Thank you. AT is there to counter the immediate armor attack in MP you face after landing. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. 1 comment. Then the torp destroyers kill enemy caps. Dont even think of putting 2 torps, 4 CA guns and a spotting plane on the Takao class ships that are somehow Myoko class ships in Hoi4 even though they are different. Myself and a few of my friends have had a lot of issues with saves becoming corrupted. My current strategy is to drop a few divisions surrounding. Enitity_Enigma • 21 days ago. One reason for the division spam, from what I have read multiple times on the forums, is that the developers encourage the AI to build many divisions. The AI doesn't produce the second and destroyer spam is best killed by good cruisers. Add more planes. Same like equipment losses as well I try to find, for myself and the enemy. ago. Then select the Feild marshal either from the theater's menu or from the bottom of the screen. Then the torp destroyers kill enemy caps. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. Jun 19, 2016. Best. Is there something I m doing wrong because I thought I should be able to increase UI scale beyond default 1X ? This thread is archived. The subs are also backed up by NAVs and heavy fighters operating from Manila. Then just spam these out. . r/hoi4. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. But last DD about rebalancing navy and two playtrough, when I cannot build even submarine spam fast. This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. Exemple US Submarine . ago. 3. I know the point of the MtG update/expansion is to combat the current meta of BB/CV spam, and to combat naval force "inflation" (i. j1ffster • 13 min. The air war is a crucial part of winning any Hoi4 game. 12, spamming subs is no longer a viable option for fleet-building. As others said, 60+ torpedo attack is needed to one-shot kill convoys. Very few focus tree mods are good imo, they are often times super overpowered. This scales [hoi4. k. THey killed 500 man and the island garrison capitulated with 12000 POWs after losing only 200 of their own. -Spam NAVs -Win If something needs to be more realist, is the plane system: no IRL plane had 1:1 Thrust-Weight ratio. But in general, which is superior. Conclusion: CVs are underpowered in. You could also use something like the tool pack mod to just give yourself some of the land. This page was last edited on 7 May 2017, at 15:55. 25) attack after modifiers. Join. Jump to latest Follow Reply. Saltborko • 4 yr. If the enemy is defending with medium tanks, you can attack with heavies to secure the armor bonus for yourself, deny it to the enemy, and have a lot. S. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. They only thing that you could do is change it from a civil war to a normal war. Putting naval bombers and fighters along with radars on land will find the enemy navy extremely fast and put a lot of damage on them. In real life, the German heavy surface raiders worked extremely well for tying up lots of Allied ships escorting convoys off the coast of Norway: leaving them unavailable for use elsewhere. Battleships are by far the single strongest ship you can produce in Hearts of Iron IV. Aka modern space marine for 1. You cant retake a fallback position as it wouldn't be "Falling Back". for the low price of just 85 XP! As an added bonus, get a way to ramp up your army to a million men for just 5 XP extra! Limited time offer. After they are gone go to the MS website and download the newest drivers. More time and QA. r/hoi4. 13. Due to submarines being nerfed in 1. If they hit 0 manpower before you you win. How to use submarines properly. 21. Instead, they provide a pittance. Add a Comment. It's the meta for a reason. fug. I use tanks for occupation, go for the craziest possible. And that's the list of useful options for naval combat. Speed is king, always retreat at any sign of trouble and stay out of air range. If you play non-historical mode be prepared to see some weird stuff, e. 3 comments. You have to select either the army group they all belong to (assuming they belong to one) or select each army individually. Gaining and retaining division XP is very hard. Radar cruisers and aa capital ships are useful as well if you can afford them.